Thema: Ducati 2v Nockenwellen VeeTwo Information

Ich hab mich mit Brook Henry von VeeTwo Australia kurzgeschlossen und schreibe euch hier mal was er über seine Nockenwellen sagt. Viel Spaß beim aufsaugen.

> Hi Ben, Our cams give very good mid range and torque . The top end is
> increased however the ridability is what you will notice.
> Can do these fore $800 per set.
> Regards
> Brook.

Hi Ben, Price is in AUD.
Sorry I don’t have the Dyno charts that we made when I developed these cams.
I will have them in the future I just cannot access them right now.
All I can tell you is that when we developed a cam we did extensive dyno work and played around with all sorts of lobe centres and timings until we got something that worked .
They are not something that was just put into production with no testing.

From memory the DP cam makes another 1 or 2 HP right up the top end.
We were able to match that HP by changing the timing however like the DP cam it dropped the mid range off and left quite a big hole in the power ( lest than STD ! )
Fact is that you don’t ride your bike at red line that much . You spend most of the time in the mid range. The other thing is that when you ride the bike it is the Torque you can feel not the HP .
People get this mixed up most of the time.
On a race track we found power exiting the corner was far better for lap times than top end. Obviously the top end has to up there and a performance cam should not make a tractor out of the engine.

I think you will find these cams very good for both street and track day use.
Hope this is of some help .

If you do wish to purchase I find paypal is the go for US customers.
Pay pal account name is carisbrookpark@westnet.com.au
Let me know if you have any further questions or queries.
Thank you for your interest.
Very best.
Brook.


Brook Henry
VEE TWO AUSTRALIA
BEVEL DRIVE DUCATI MOTORCYCLE SPECIALISTS.
MANUFACTURING - PARTS - ENGINE REBUILDS .
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Brook Henry Vee Two Ducati Australia
veetwo@westnet.com.au

Tel : + 61 (0) 89 756 0885
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Postal Address.
PO Box 296 Nannup 6275 Western Australia

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Camshaft Kit
Valve Timing



1000 S2R / MTS (to 2006)
Sport 1000 / GT / S
Part No: V2-03-301 manufactured from 2006



Type Road / Track Grind

Material Carbon Steel, heat treated

Timing Figures

Running Clearance

Inlet 0.10mm
Exhaust 0.15mm

Opening and Closing Figures at 1mm Lift

Inlet Opening 36 degrees B.T.D.C
Inlet Closing 65 degrees A.B.D.C
Exhaust Opening 63 degrees B.B.D.C
Exhaust Closing 22 degrees A.T.D.C

Maximum Lift at Valve

Inlet 13.0mm
Exhaust 11.4mm





1. With V2 performance Cams, we endeavor to run 0 clearance through the opening and closing cycle to prolong closing shim collet and valve groove life. However it is important that binding does not occur. Due to errors and differences in rocker radii pin positions, etc, a slightly wider tappet clearance than specified may be necessary. Vee Two recommends that piston to valve clearance always be checked.

2. When checking timing in Desmo engines, not using closed springs, ensure that the bottom rocker is held up against closing shim at position of taking cam timing figures.

Hier nochmal etwas zum vergleich ,,, werte sind aus dem Duc Forum kopiert


Hub E / Hub A / Einl. / Ausl. / Überschneidung
09,35 / 08,50 / 262° / 261° / 37° -> 750SS / Weh-900
11,75 / 10,56 / 274° / 267° / 53° -> 900SS
11,80 / 11,40 / 280° / 274° / 53° -> 900iE
11,80 / 11,40 / 282° / 281° / 59° -> ST2
11,20 / 10,80 / 260° / 261° / 34° -> 1000 Serie
11,44 / 11,00 / 277° / 274° / 47° -> 1000 DP
13,00 / 11,40 / 281° / 265° / 58° -> 1000 VeeTwo

Zitat von Joerg

Hier nochmal etwas zum vergleich ,,, werte sind aus dem Duc Forum kopiert

und noch die NCR Werte

Hub E / Hub A / Einl. / Ausl. / Überschneidung
09,35 / 08,50 / 262° / 261° / 37° -> 750SS / Weh-900
11,75 / 10,56 / 274° / 267° / 53° -> 900SS
11,80 / 11,40 / 280° / 274° / 53° -> 900iE
11,80 / 11,40 / 282° / 281° / 59° -> ST2
11,20 / 10,80 / 260° / 261° / 34° -> 1000 Serie
11,44 / 11,00 / 277° / 274° / 47° -> 1000 DP
13,00 / 11,40 / 281° / 265° / 58° -> 1000 VeeTwo
13,10 / 13,10 / 292° / 290° / 68° -> NCR Corse

Jo , die suchte ich gerade

Hehe,

irgendwoher kenn ich die Liste...

Ich persönlich würde übrigens maximal die VeeTwo-Nocke verwenden.
Und wenn es lange halten soll, die DP...
Hilft aber alles nicht wirklich, wenn man die Kanäle nicht passend aufmacht.

Gruß
Mathias

Zitat von lolek

und noch die NCR Werte

Hub E / Hub A / Einl. / Ausl. / Überschneidung
09,35 / 08,50 / 262° / 261° / 37° -> 750SS / Weh-900
11,75 / 10,56 / 274° / 267° / 53° -> 900SS
11,80 / 11,40 / 280° / 274° / 53° -> 900iE
11,80 / 11,40 / 282° / 281° / 59° -> ST2
11,20 / 10,80 / 260° / 261° / 34° -> 1000 Serie
11,44 / 11,00 / 277° / 274° / 47° -> 1000 DP
13,00 / 11,40 / 281° / 265° / 58° -> 1000 VeeTwo
13,10 / 13,10 / 292° / 290° / 68° -> NCR Corse

Wenn Ihr den Öffnungsbeginn der Ventile noch hättet könnte ich die Werte mal durch ne Motorsimulation jagen.

Gruss Oli

EÖ / ES / AÖ / AS
12 / 70 / 56 / 25 -> 750SS u.a.
24 / 70 / 58 / 29 -> 900SS Serie
30 / 64 / 64 / 23 -> 900SS (meine)
25 / 75 / 66 / 28 -> 900i.E. Serie
34 / 66 / 75 / 19 -> 900i.E. (Brad Blacks Einstellung)
29 / 73 / 71 / 30 -> ST2
15 / 65 / 62 / 19 -> 1000DS
25 / 72 / 72 / 22 -> 1000DP
36 / 65 / 63 / 22 -> 1000VeeTwo
32 / 80 / 74 / 36 -> 1000NCR

Alle Werte mit Nullspiel bei 1mm Hub...

Gruß
Mathias